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Country	City	Description
Australia	Brisbane	Event Link - Tickets $20 before 18/08, $25 after. Food and Drinks provided, giveaways and 1v1 tournament as well. luberk
Australia	Melbourne	Event Link - One amazing guy has rented a cinema in Melbourne, Australia if you feel like joining us at 3am! priorax
Australia	Sydney	Event Link - The same amazing guy that rented out a cinema in Melbourne, Australia has also rented out a cinema in Sydney, Australia if you feel like joining us at 3am.
Austria	Vienna	Event Link - HurghtRS
Belarus	Minsk	Event Link Official Secret Shop, bars , cosplay & sponspors giveaway. Velcom Cinema & Galileo Silver Screen RestorKa
Brazil	Belo Horizonte	Event Link - We will broadcast every game, including group stages, at WASD eSports Bar in Belo Horizonte, Brazil. For the finals we are planning a big event with giveaways and x1 with pros and semi-pros. The tickets are R$ 10,00 and you can check it out here. Urso_WASD
Brazil	Porto Alegre	Event Link - Venha assistir a final do The International 2018 ao vivo, em um telão, na Lends Club! Teremos comida, chopp e premios! Come watch The International 2018 finals on a big screen, at Lends Club! We'll have food, draft beer and prizes for atendees! esportsPOA
Canada	London	Event Link - We will once again host @ The Squire Pub & Grill in London, ON, CAD. RGBKnights
Canada	Ottawa	Event Link - At Click eSports Sat, 25 August 2018 12:00 PM – 8:00 PM EDT. Ticket types to only watch or to also use gaming PCs at same time (note that I am not the organizer) Cote-de-Bone
Canada	Toronto	https://esports-tickets.com/event-public/ti8ve - Join us again this year at the Cineplex Yonge and Dundas! We’ve always sold out every year for the pubstomp and the crowd is always awesome! Need more information? Information and tickets are on our Esports-Tickets.com event page and you can join the Canada Dota 2 group. Some ticket packages are limited in quantities, so if you can't purchase a specific ticket, it means that it has been sold out. chibista
Denmark	Copenhagen	Event Link - Cinema viewing party for the Lower Bracket Final and Grand Final of TI8 on 25. august 2018. 17:45-04:00 CET (or whenever it ends) with competitions, giveaways, free Coca-Cola at entrance, hosts, entertainment and a great atmosphere. Panel, interviews, and ceremony will all be broadcasted as well. OlLi_-
Estonia	Tartu	https://www.facebook.com/events/218604902140257/ - Hey! I'm organising a pubstomp in Tartu, Estonia. No ticket and proper pub food at the pub Illegaard. More info can be found at our FB event. dekamano
Finland	Helsinki	https://www.facebook.com/events/285584798893275/ - PHZ.fi in co-operation with Aalto Gamers are organizing a viewing party in the Helsinki metropolitan area (Espoo, Otaniemi to be precise). You can get there very easily by metro from Helsinki. Come enjoy the final day of TI8 with us! There's gonna be pizza & soft drinks available for free + there's a grocery store and a grill close by to the venue phzgames
Finland	Jyväskylä	Event Link - There's one here organized by JeSSe Ry: Jyväskylä, Finland. Ilokivi onstage. Facebook link for the event: This is 18+ event. Hallunder
Germany	Karlsruhe	Event Link - Since we have successfully hosted Germany’s biggest Dota 2 public viewing for a couple of years now, we want to try meet the expectations this year once again. We will be broadcasting the grand finals on August 25th on the AKK tribune starting at 7pm. There, we want to collectively experience the biggest spectacle in this Dota 2 year with all the fans from near and far. Not only Dota 2 players but also DotA veterans, Dota 2 newbies and everyone who wants to get to know the phenomenon Dota are welcome to join us. spcemarine
Germany	Regensburg	Event Link - The 4th year in a row we are organizing the Dota TI finals public viewing in the old town of Regensburg. The event will take place at Picasso Regensburg. Starting time is 18:00 at the 25th of august. Like the last years the entrance is free, we have a pubquiz and MEGA Dota related drink specials. This year we also organized a Fotobox (thanks to the Gamerverein Regensburg) were you can take fotos with your favourite Dota heroes or even become one yourself! For further details you can look up the event page or contact us via facebook. Kryptondifluorid
Hong Kong	Hong Kong	Event Link - Location is still to be determined. Dota2 HK is hosting one on Grand Finals Day. Aug 25, 10pm HK Time. cybuster2
India	Delhi NCR	Event Link - Dota 2 Delhi pubstomp is back sunnydiv
Ireland	Dublin	Event Link - It's in the same pub as previous years. Strictly 18+ unfortunately. Hopefully can get added to the list. KC252
Netherlands	Amsterdam	Event Link - Confirmed to broadcast as many of the games as possible, even after official closing times. No Facebook event yet. Razorya
Netherlands	Rotterdam	Event Link - Pretty sure there is one in Rotterdam in the Netherlands. I'm not sure it's a "pubstomp" but they're supposed to be hosting something. justanothrunistudent
Russia	Saint-Petersburg	http://dota2vo.ru/ti8 - Organizing pubstomp 6th time in awesome theatre with lounge zone, secret shop, 1x1 tournament and other stuff. Come to us on 25th of august finargot
Singapore	Singapore	Event Link - Singapore's one's at SAFRA Yishun, main atrium. Minimum spending of S$5 as per the post, for snacks pass. Cannot go because i booked a hotel somewhere else. nekosake2
Singapore	Singapore	Event Link - 2nd one is at Singtel Comcentre, with PMS nekosake2
South Africa	Cape Town	Event Link I think there's something happening in Cape Town (South Africa), I'm definitely gonna attend it :D meeposki
South Africa	Johannesburg	Event Link - Sparky_Naartjie
Sweden	Stockholm	https://www.facebook.com/events/206858336604801/ - I'm not entirely sure, but I believe it's an 18+ event. burger_stand
Thailand	Bangkok	Event Link - Not sure if this counted as pubstomp but we are having one in Bangkok, Thailand. Sponsored by Lenovo Thailand. It will be hosted at Siam Pavalai Theatre on the 6th floor of Siam Paragon shopping mall. Aug 25-26 10pm-10 am local time. Rawinza555
Thailand	Bangkok	Event Link - Another BIGGEST PUBSTOMP in BKK THAILAND is held by INVATE, Esport Specialist in Thailand (The best Live Broadcasting), who will bring the best experience to all Dota 2 fans!! discotechssss
Ukraine	Odessa	Event Link - there is pubstomp in Odessa, Ukraine if anyone even cares
United Kingdom	London	Event Link - This event is pending and not finalized JawnisBritish
United Kingdom	London	https://www.facebook.com/events/259335661345723/ - We are having one at the Carlsberg Esports bar in central London with free entry, food and drinks available and more to be announced. BanKseSports
United Kingdom	Manchester	Event Link - Over 18s only (they are Casino venues) epicWinbar
United Kingdom	Newcastle-upon-Tyne	Event Link - Over 18s only (they are Casino venues) epicWinbar
United Kingdom	Reading South	Event Link - Over 18s only (they are Casino venues) epicWinbar
USA	Acton	https://m.facebook.com/thepizzaplaceacton - Considering doing deals on pizza, apps, and Beer if we can get anyone out there. 85" TV and 6 TV'ss total in the sports bar. Pictures on Facebook. At this point its just me and my one friend. renorhino88
USA	Baltimore	Event Link - Hey, representing the Baltimore one as well! This event is 21+, food specials. It's the fourth year we've participated! Seanbiscuit
USA	Chicago	Event Link - If you're 18+ in Chicago and want to watch Grand Finals surrounded by fellow fans, come out to a FanHome hosted International watch party at Hi-Point, the gaming lounge of Highline in River North on Saturday, August 25th. Tickets are sold above, each ticket provides you entrance to the bar, food, giveaways from FanHome's beverage partner, and enters you into a raffle. Jayhawk2b
USA	Cincinnati	Event Link - I’m proud to announce the official TI8 Pubstomp this year in Cincinnati! I’ve been working with the owners of 16-Bit Bar+Arcade. We have a great venue setup, with our own reserved seating to accommodate however many people show up. We'll even have a signature drink just for the occasion! Please be sure to tell your friends and family (even those who haven’t watched or played DotA – they might leave a fan!).This event is for guests 21 and over, so please keep that in mind. Don’t hesitate to reach out if you have any questions and please RSVP if you plan on attending. Banana___Hammock
USA	Houston	Event Link - The International 8 Watch Party on August 25th In Houston, TX! Whether you love Dota, or have never seen a game this is going to be a great party for all gamers! We will have special guests, vendors, raffles, drink specials, food, hookah stands and much more! We will be raffling off a Hyper X gamer setup including a Mechanical Keyboard, Mouse, and Headset! LotharThrowaway
USA	Medina	Event Link - Welcome to the 6th year of me hosting Dota pubstomps in Medina Ohio. Last year was a great turnout but after many people saying that it was too small i looked for a new place again. Luckily the place i hosted in 2016 is back and that's where we are this year. As always the event is open to anyone of any age and no cover charge! I just strongly encourage anyone who attends to Eat and Drink there as they are giving us the place for the whole day for free. theaxel11
USA	Oakland	Cafe el Patio - In Oakland, California is going be showing everything from the group stages to the Main event finals! Address is 4030 International Blvd, Oakland CA. There is limited seating but there are three TVs. typicalhonduran
USA	Sacramento	Event Link - Come watch The International 8 at my house! Join us for our second annual Pubstomp! We host Friday and Saturday and setup a LAN party in the dining room to play between matches. Fairfield is located directly between San Francisco and Sacramento (North-East bay). Last year we had six viewers. Please RSVP so we can plan for food and message you the exact address. Amenities include: 75" 4k UltraHD stream with Pioneer 5.1 Surround Sound, Pizza, Beer, Nachos and More, Couches, Enthusiasm, Fast Internet, 420 Friendly josher777
USA	Seattle	Event Link - If you're over 21 and are in the Seattle area during TI, @FollowMe has organized a pubstomp in Capitol Hill for Saturday, August 25th. Sketches_Stuff_Maybe
USA	Washington	Event Link - Join us at Tenley Bar and Grill to watch the finals on their projection screen. This event is ALL AGES and cosplay is encouraged. There will be giveaways throughout the day of some Dota2 swag as well as 3 full event tickets for GEXCon (gexconvention.com) coming up at the end of the month. dmr83457
Vietnam	Hanoi	Pending details from 23 Creative VN ptaqll5
Vietnam	Hai Phong City	Event Link - Time 21:00 , day 25 / 08 , location : 21 Trần Hưng Đạo Street - Vườn Xuân Coffee butchimau_hp_95
Vietnam	Ho Chi Minh City	Event Link - Watch their full HD video for the event: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DOLKzDDyNuU ptaqll5
Vietnam	Ho Chi Minh City	Event Link - Time: 21 h00 day 25/8-10 h00 day 26/8, location: Restaurant 68 lộc shots, number 213 to theme, Ward 15, District 10, TP. Ho Chi Minh. All details, please contact MEGA esports gaming house at 0909791809 ptaqll5
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PS: Also still hoping Valve would ship this merch out to us pubstomp organizers :D
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[Not Switzerland] My overview/tips for the Black Forest (Schwarzwald) in Germany.

Schwarz – Black, and Wald – Forest. Simple.
The official tourist website is very extensive - https://www.blackforest-tourism.com/ as is - https://www.black-forest-travel.com/ . Each end also has it’s own regional tourism website: the northern Black Forest National Park (Nationalpark Schwarzwald), and the southern High Black Forest (Hochschwarzwald). Those should cover just about everything you could want.
The Black Forest is a roughly 60% forested mountain/hill range in south western Germany stretching down from Karlsruhe to the Swiss border. It never gets THAT high: at 1493m Feldberg is only just above the local tree-line. Generally speaking the northern part tends to be more touristy, and the southern end is the higher (and can offer some good Alpine views in the right weather conditions). What the actual area covered by it can be hard to define; some definitions go all the way down to the Rhein, others stop with the trees.
Something about it seems to give people romanticised ideas (and many others sell it hard on that), making it sound like a magical location (indeed many people seem to – falsely - think that all the Grimm’s fairy tales originate from here). Maybe just the name itself does that. I certainly had such feelings that it was an exotic and exciting place when I went there the first time. However having been back many times I would say it is not a truly unique place (you can find comparable landscapes all over Germany and central Europe) and it isn’t any more dark or sinister than any other forest. but is still very nice and you do get scenes like this painting. I think it works better if you think of it as an outdoor activity area for those from northern/central Europe, rather than as a must-see for someone coming from the USA or Australia.
Mark Twain wrote about it in “A Tramp Abroad”, which is free to read but that bit is much weaker than his accounts of Switzerland. Including the quote about the spas "Here . . . you lose track of time in ten minutes and the world in twenty" which is used by apparently everybody who writes about the area.

There are three clichés which are usually beaten to death: Cuckoo clocks, cakes, and ham. These are covered in more detail further down.
The other cliché thing is the hat with big red balls, the Bollenhut. Though oddly it was just a thing in a few protestant villages, but has now been taken to represent the mostly catholic Black Forest as a whole.
Tourism is a major source of income (originally tourism kicked off due to the spas which are still open). But tourism tends to be heavy in some areas and almost non-existent in others. It is very easy to find a quiet bit of woodland or hilltop. It is far enough from most standard European destinations to be more of a “passing-through” spot for people from further away so mass tourism mostly isn’t a problem outside of a few focal points like Triberg.
Towns/villages are best seen as starting points or easy places to reach, rather than the main focus (other than bigger places like Freiburg). Some are pretty, but none are very big and are just a nice place to grab some food or supplies. The most interesting sight is the giant wooden farmhouse which are very indicative of the area. Though most modern buildings are a fairly standard concrete design which keeps the overall aesthetics, but just isn’t the same.
Being mountainous the weather is a little more extreme than the surrounding areas, but only a little (this is not the high Alps). It still pays to check ahead and prepare of course. During summer weather is warm and sunny enough to grow wine, but there is also a very high rainfall and there can be cold snaps. It can be very snowy in winter, though in recent years this has been drastically reduced. The main problem in winter is the fog, so plan to go to the higher parts (if possible over 1000m) to avoid that.
Being a widely populated and touristy area you are never that far from food and shelter. But there can still be danger if you are caught out by the weather.
Clearly German is the default language. Getting by in other languages should be easy enough in the tourist hotspots. Though it might be a bit more hit and miss in the quieter and more remote areas. There is a local Alemannische dialect but that won’t be anything to worry about unless you want to eavesdrop on the locals.

Just to ruin a few magical things…..

The cake was probably not invented in the Black Forest. More on that later.
It isn’t especially linked to any fairy tales. There are some local myths and tales like any region has. But the Brothers Grimm were never known to even visit the area (plus they collected/recorded/edited as an academic exercise into culture, rather than wrote the tales), they lived further north - hence the Fairy Tale Road is up around Marburg and Kassel. So most of their works are more local to Hesse/Westphalia (though they would have existed in various forms all over the region of modern Germany, and some were told to them by French Huguenots). By all means read their tales (though ideally in the first edition version) take in the atmosphere and imagine the places that could be just like the stories, just don’t think that the itself Black Forest inspired those exact stories.c
It isn’t much of an ancient forest – the region was heavily deforested by 1850 with a monoculture of fast growing Spruce planted to replace the missing woods. Efforts have been made to fix this and it is looking much better, but it can still be very apparent in some parts.
Dark on Netflix is filmed in the Brandenburg/Berlin area – totally the wrong side of the country. The landscape is far too flat, and the brick houses are a rare sight in the south of Germany.
Gummy bears come from Germany but were invented in Bonn. The Black Forest Gummy bears that Americans go on about are made in the USA and unknown elsewhere. Showing the advert to my Black Forest native girlfriend produced something of a confused reaction.
You probably didn’t play here in Age of Empires 2. With the language set to German you are instead playing in “Dunkelwald” (dark forest). The Black Forest map is the right sort of region, but far too flat.

Getting around
Realistically you need a car to explore the area properly. You can still see some parts easily enough without a car, but you will be a little limited and much slower (figure 2x the travel time).

The main scenic drive is the Schwarzwald-Hochstrasse, but there is also apparently: the Valley Road, the Spa Road, the Baden Wine Road, the Asparagus Road, and the Clock Road. Though most driving in the area will be scenic, especially on the quieter backroads.
Driving is mostly easy, but can be a little round-about with so many hills requiring diversions around them. Smaller roads might be narrow without markings down the centre, and single lane roads going up to or connecting smaller villages are not uncommon. Cyclists can be a surprise and then hard to overtake on the windy roads, then from behind you have motorbikes who are often suicidal and will try and overtake you on blind corners.
There are forest car parks that offer free parking. So it is very easy to park at the start of a hike or by a scenic lookout.
There are a few train lines, but the coverage is really far from total. There are also a few with historic trains running: Waldenburg-Liestal, Ettlingen-Bad Herrenalb (the Albtalbahn) and the Dampfzug Chanderli, between Kandern and Basel.
Bus routes from Freiburg to the bigger tourist spots tend to be slow but will do the job. Those covering smaller villages in quieter areas tend to be the “once or twice a day and stop everywhere” sort.
If you are using public transport then the Baden-Württemberg-Ticket offers a cheap day pass for local transport in the region, and it gets cheaper for each extra person in your group.

What to do
Outdoor activities are pretty much the main reason to go. The winters are getting increasingly less snowy. So the area is starting to focus more on hiking and biking that can increasingly be done year round.
hiking
There are well marked paths everywhere covering everything from short and easy to multi-day long distance routes. Sign posts give you destinations, and the distance to get there in km (as opposed to the time estimate in Switzerland).
A quick google of the area you plan to be in should bring up plenty of ideas.
Eg:
https://www.komoot.com/guide/37/hiking-in-the-black-forest
https://www.outdooractive.com/en/hikes/loerrach/hiking-in-loerrach/1453476/
https://monkeysandmountains.com/tips-for-hiking-in-the-black-forest-germany/
Biking
There are a mix of local loops and long distance routes.

The white and green routes that are well signposted do a good job of keeping you away from traffic: either on quieter backroads, or on gravel roads through the forest. In places where you have to follow a major road there will at least be a safe side path.
The yellow signs are the mountain bike cross routes. This is distance and height gain on gravel-paths rather than single trails and technical downhills. I plan to do the Schwarzwald-cross route at some point in the future, though maybe cutting the length of some of the harder sectons….
Ebikes are becoming very popular. In more touristy spots you might see more groups on ebikes than hikers.
There are a number of dedicated mountainbike parks. EG: https://bikepark-todtnau.de/
There are vast amounts of double or single trail paths that go through the forest which you can use. Often the marked footpaths follow gravel-roads rather than single trail, so it is easy to follow them. But this can be a little hit and miss with making the distances and climbs longer and harder.

Winter sports
When there is enough snow there are lots of cross-country skiing options. Downhill skiing is mostly bunny slopes, though some areas like around the Feldberg are more extensive. However the snow in recent years has been so poor that you are more likely to need a mountain bike than a pair of skis.
View points
Too many to list.
Castles and ruins
There are not many castles in the Black Forest, mostly you will find the odd ruin.

Erberstein
Schloss Hohenbaden. A ruin.
You have some impressive castles and fortresses in the region. Like Hohenzollern Castle, Lichtenstein Castle, Heidelberg, Neuf-Brisach, Château du Haut-Kœnigsbourg. But these are very much not in the Black Forest.
Klosterruine Hirsau.

Where to go
I have mapped out the places listed below.
In general if you pick a random point you will probably find something nice around it.
In December many of these places have Christmas Markets, especially Freiburg.
Main tourist spots
Triberg, Titisee, Feldberg, and Baden-Baden are arguably the biggest tourist focal points inside the Black Forest. Anywhere within a short hop of the bigger urban areas like Freiburg will also likely be quite busy on nice days.

Freiburg (im Breisgau). Not really Black Forest (depending on who you ask), but a nice city and a good entry point.
Titisee (yes that is Titi-lake). REALLY TOURISTY. The historical home of tourism in the area, also home to a slightly comical number of boats.
Feldberg. The highest point in the Black Forest. See also the Feldsee just below it.
Schluchsee. A slightly quieter lake than the Titisee. It is a dammed lake so the changing water level leaves the sides a bit barren, and the north side is dominated by a busy road that gives you the roar of motorbikes anywhere in the area. By far the nicest part of the lake is the restaurant/café at Unterkrummenhof-Schluchsee.
Rothaus Braueri. The makers of the beer that dominates much of the region. They have a barestaurant/shop/exhibition/hotel at their brewing site.
Mummelsee.
Baden Baden. The classic spa/casino town. Like Freiburg it isn’t really the Black Forest, but makes a good starting point.
Triberg. REALLY TOURSITY. See also the local waterfall which is apparently the highest in Germany.
There are quite a few Rödelbahn (alpine coasters).
Altensteig.
Baiersbronn. A higher end resort town with lots of fancy restaurants.
Open air museum Vogstbauernhof
Allerheiligen. Featuring a pretty waterfall and a ruined monastery.
Staufen
Wolfach.
Hexenlochmühle (witch hole mill)
The Kinzig valley, including Gengenbach and Schiltach.
Schloss Hohenbaden.
Hausach.
Bad Wildbad.
Gutachtal.
Ravennaschluct and the Christmas Market there.
Donauquelle (source of the Danube river).

Other spots
These might also be touristy to some extent, but probably far less so.

Wutachschlucht.
Sankt Blasien (a surrealy big church in a small valley).
Kloster St. Peter auf dem Schwarzwald.
Geroldsau Waterfall.
Zweribach Waterfall.
Freudenstadt.
Alpirsbach.
Bernau.
Menzenschwand.
Herzogenhorn.
Calw.
Nagold.
Schitach.
Hornisgrinde.
Alternativer Wolf- und Bärenpark

Food and drink
Separating truly Black Forest and anything from that region is a little hard. Being a rural area there are plenty of local jams/honey/etc on sale

Schwarzwälder Kirschtorte (Black Forest gâteau/cake). Quite why it got the name is unclear and there are various stories, it might be the flavouring with Kirsch (hence the name in German). The origin of the cake itself is also seemingly uncertain, with there being no absolute proof that it originated in the Black Forest. More likely it seems to have come from Bonn. You can certainly find it easily and enjoy it in the Black Forest though.
Schwarzwälder schinken (Black Forest Ham). A smoke-cured raw ham. In Europe this has regional protection, so it has to be produced in the region to a certain standard to have the name. The name seems to resonate strongly with people from the USA - where it is not under any protection and seems to be a common exotic sounding description slapped on the name of any old pork product (this can vary from something respectable looking, to a level of “DEAR GOD WHAT THE IN NAME OF FUCK IS THAT”). Whatever it is that Subway sells has certainly never been anywhere near the Black Forest. There is apparently a museum about the meat in Musbach bei Freudenstadt, and certainly one at the Feldberg. There is even a ham themed hiking route.
Beer. Rothaus is the most common beer in the area, and can increasingly be found further and further away. Waldhaus is a favourite of mine, and there are numerous others. Again the tourism website is quite informative (though not all inclusive).
Other Alcohol. The cherry brandy Kirsch(wasser) is the most famous and traditional. There are various other fruit based Schnapps. There are also more modern drinks like Whiskey such as the Marder Whiskey or Black Forest (from Rothaus) and gin such as the Monkey 47 (to name just a few).
Wine is made in the area – especially in the Rhein valley around Freiburg.

Other bits
There are endless little museums.

Cuckoo clocks (Kuckucksuhr). That other Black Forest thing. They might not have originated in the Black Forest, but they became very popular there. There is a museum, and Triberg and Schonach both claim to have the world's largest cuckoo clock, among other clock based touristy-things scattered around. You will never be short of the chance to buy one.
Glassmaking is an old tradition and there are workshops and show-rooms all over the area. There should also be a glass making themed hike in the south somewhere.
For a rather unique spot read this article and then visit the Engländerdenkmal.

Articles and other resources

https://www.independent.co.uk/travel/europe/the-complete-guide-to-the-black-forest-5353552.html

Reading/culture

Three Men on the Bummel - Jerome K. Jerome. The sequel as such to the classic Three men on a boat.
If you speak German then looking for “SWR schwarzwald” on Youtube will find you lots of Black Forest related shows on history, culture, and travel in the area.
There is a long running and apparently popular German TV series set in the area - Die Schwarzwaldklinik.
Likewise if you can read German then you can read some local Krimis by the publisher Eamon.

Other points

For similar areas the Swiss Jura mountains are very close. Likewise the Emmental (especially around Napf) and Appenzell. The latter have the advantage that in addition to deeply folded wooded valleys, the landscape then rises up to the Alps.
There have been a few suspected wolf sightings but nothing to worry you – motorbikes present a far bigger danger.
A far realer danger than wolfs is hunters during the autumn – it is best not to go off of the paths then. You will see their high perches all over the Black Forest and Germany.
I don’t care how much I have been inconsistent with the ordering of English (German) and German (English).

My overview/tips for the Black Forest (Schwarzwald) in Germany.

Schwarz – Black, and Wald – Forest. Simple. Though the real origin of the name seems unclear. There are various myths but non seem to be true for certain.
The official tourist website is very extensive - https://www.blackforest-tourism.com/ as is - https://www.black-forest-travel.com/ . Each end also has it’s own regional tourism website: the northern Black Forest National Park (Nationalpark Schwarzwald), and the southern High Black Forest (Hochschwarzwald). Those should cover just about everything you could want.
The Black Forest is a roughly 60% forested mountain/hill range in south western Germany stretching down from Karlsruhe to the Swiss border. It never gets THAT high: at 1493m Feldberg is only just above the local tree-line. Generally speaking the northern part tends to be more touristy, and the southern end is the higher (and can offer some good Alpine views in the right weather conditions). What the actual area covered by it can be hard to define; some definitions go all the way down to the Rhein, others stop with the trees.
Something about it seems to give people romanticised ideas (and many others sell it hard on that), making it sound like a magical location (indeed many people seem to – falsely - think that all the Grimm’s fairy tales originate from here). Maybe just the name itself does that. I certainly had such feelings that it was an exotic and exciting place when I went there the first time. Having been back many times I would say it is not a truly unique place (you can find comparable landscapes all over central Europe) and it isn’t any more dark or sinister than any other forest. but is still very very nice and you do get scenes like this painting. I also think it works better as an outdoor activity area for those from northern/central Europe, rather than as a must-see for someone coming from the USA or Australia and who only has a short time to work with.
Mark Twain wrote about it in “A Tramp Abroad”, which is free to read but that bit is much weaker than his accounts of Switzerland. Including the quote about the spas "Here . . . you lose track of time in ten minutes and the world in twenty" which is used by apparently everybody who writes about the area.

There are three clichés which are usually beaten to death: Cuckoo clocks, cakes, and ham. These are covered in more detail further down.
The other cliché thing is the hat with big red balls, the Bollenhut. Though oddly it was just a thing in a few protestant villages, but has now been taken to represent the mostly catholic Black Forest as a whole.
Tourism is a major source of income (originally tourism kicked off due to the spas which are still open). But tourism tends to be heavy in some areas and almost non-existent in others. It is very easy to find a quiet bit of woodland or hilltop. It is far enough from most standard European destinations to be more of a “passing-through” spot for people from further away so mass tourism mostly isn’t a problem outside of a few focal points like Triberg.
Towns/villages are best seen as starting points or easy targets than rather than the main focus (other than bigger places like Freiburg). Some are pretty pretty, but none are very big. The most interesting sight is the giant wooden farmhouses which are very indicative of the area (and also Bern region in Switzerland).
Being mountainous the weather is a little more extreme than the surrounded area, but only a little (this is not the high Alps). It still pays to check ahead and prepare of course. During summer weather is warm and sunny enough to grow wine, but there is also a very high rainfall and there can be cold snaps. It can be very snowy in winter, though in recent years this has drastically been reduced. The main problem in winter is the fog, so plan to go to the higher parts if possible (over 1000m) to avoid that.
Being a widely populated and touristy area you are never that far from food and shelter. But there can still be danger if you are caught out by the weather.
Clearly German is the default language. Getting by in other languages should be easy enough in the tourist hotspots. Though it might be a bit more hit and miss in the quieter and more remote areas. There is a local Alemannische dialect but that won’t be anything to worry about unless you want to eavesdrop on the locals.

Just to ruin a few magical things…..

The cake was probably not invented in the Black Forest. More on that later.
It isn’t especially linked to any fairy tales. There are some local myths and tales like any region has. But the Brothers Grimm were never based around there (and they collected/recorded/edited rather than wrote the tales), they were further north hence the fairy tale road is up around Marburg and Kassel and so most of their works are more local to Hesse/Westphalia (though they would have existed in various forms all over the region of modern Germany, and some were told to them by French Huguenots). By all means read their tales (though ideally in the first edition version) take in the atmosphere and imagine the places that could be just like the stories, just don’t think that the itself Black Forest inspired those exact stories.
It isn’t much of an ancient forest – the region was heavily deforested by 1850 with a monoculture of fast growing Spruce planted to replace the missing woods. Efforts have been made to fix this and it is looking muc better, but it can still be very apparent in some parts.
Dark on Netflix is filmed in Brandenburg/Berlin area – totally the wrong side of the country. The landscape is far too flat, and the brick houses are a rare sight in the south of Germany.
Gummy bears come from Germany but were invented in Bonn. The Black Forest Gummy bears that Americans go on about are made in the USA and unknown elsewhere. Showing the advert to my Black Forest native girlfriend produced something of a confused reaction.
You probably didn’t play here in Age of Empires 2. With the language set to German you are instead playing in “Dunkelwald” (dark forest). The Black Forest map is the right sort of region, but far too flat.

The main scenic drive is the Schwarzwald-Hochstrasse, but there is also apparently: the Valley Road, the Spa Road, the Baden Wine Road, the Asparagus Road, and the Clock Road. Though most driving in the area will be scenic, especially on the quieter backroads.
There are a few train lines, but the coverage is really far from total. There are also a few with historic trains running: Waldenburg-Liestal, Ettlingen-Bad Herrenalb (the Albtalbahn) and the Dampfzug Chanderli, between Kandern and Basel.
Bus routes from Freiburg to the bigger tourist spots tend to be slow but will do the job. Those covering smaller villages in quieter areas tend to be the “once or twice a day and stop everywhere” sort.
If you are using public transport then the Baden-Württemberg-Ticket offers a cheap day pass for local transport in the region, and it gets cheaper for each extra person in your group.

Sports
Outdoor activities are pretty much the main reason to go. The winters are getting increasingly less snowy. So the area is starting to focus more on hiking and biking that can increasingly be done year round.
hiking
There are well marked paths everywhere covering everything from short and easy to multi-day long distance routes. A quick google of the area you plan to be in should bring up plenty of ideas. Eg:
https://www.komoot.com/guide/37/hiking-in-the-black-forest
https://www.outdooractive.com/en/hikes/loerrach/hiking-in-loerrach/1453476/
https://monkeysandmountains.com/tips-for-hiking-in-the-black-forest-germany/
Biking
Likewise there are lots of biking routes of various types that are covered by the tourist websites.
I plan to do the Schwarzwald-cross route at some point in the future. Though maybe cutting the length of some of the harder sectons….
Snow
When there is enough snow there are lots of cross-country skiing options. Downhill skiing is mostly bunny slopes, though some areas like around the Feldberg are more extensive. However the snow in recent years has been so poor that your are more likely to need a mountain bike than a pair of skis.
Where to go
I have mapped out the places listed below.
In general if you pick a random point you will probably find something nice around it.
In December many of these places have Christmas Markets, especially Freiburg.
Main tourist spots
Triberg and Titisee are arguably the two biggest tourist focal points inside the Black Forest. Anywhere within a short hop of the bigger urban areas like Freiburg will also likely be quite busy on nice days.

Freiburg (im Breisgau). Not really Black Forest (depending on who you ask), but a nice city and a good entry point.
Titisee (yes that is Titi-lake). REALLY TOURISTY. The historical home of tourism in the area, also home to a slightly comical number of boats.
Feldberg. See also the Feldsee just below it.
Schluchsee. A slightly quieter lake than the Titisee.
Mummelsee.
Baden Baden. The classic spa/casino town. Like Freiburg it isn’t really the Black Forest, but makes a good starting point.
Triberg. REALLY TOURSITY. See also the local waterfall which is apparently the highest in Germany.
There are quite a few Rödelbahn (alpine coasters).
Altensteig.
Baiersbronn. A higher end resort town with lots of fancy restaurants.
Open air museum Vogstbauernhof
Allerheiligen. Featuring a pretty waterfall and a ruined monastery.
Staufen
Wolfach.
Hexenlochmühle (witch hole mill)
The Kinzig valley, including Gengenbach and Schiltach
Schloss Hohenbaden
Hausach.
Bad Wildbad
Gutachtal
Ravennaschluct and the Christmas Market there
Donauquelle (source of the Danube river).

Other spots
These might also be touristy to some extent, but probably far less so.

Wutachschlucht
Sankt Blasien (the big church)
Kloster St. Peter auf dem Schwarzwald.
Geroldsau Waterfall
Zweribach Waterfall
Freudenstadt
Alpirsbach
Bernau
Menzenschwand.
Herzogenhorn.
Calw
Nagold
Schitach
Hornisgrinde
Alternativer Wolf- und Bärenpark

Food and drink
Separating truly Black Forest and anything from that region is a little hard. Being a rural area there are plenty of local jams/honey/etc on sale

Schwarzwälder Kirschtorte (Black Forest gâteau/cake). Quite why it got the name is unclear and there are various stories, it might be the flavouring with Kirsch (hence the name in German). The origin of the cake itself is also seemingly uncertain, with there being no absolute proof that it originated in the Black Forest. More likely it seems to have come from Bonn. You can certainly find it easily and enjoy it in the Black Forest though.
Schwarzwälder schinken (Black Forest Ham). A smoke-cured raw ham. In Europe this has regional protection, so it has to be produced in the region to a certain standard to have the name. The name seems to resonate strongly with people from the USA - where it is not under any protection and seems to be a common exotic sounding description slapped on the name of any old pork product (this can vary from something respectable looking, to a level of “DEAR GOD WHAT THE IN NAME OF FUCK IS THAT”). Whatever it is that Subway sells has certainly never been anywhere near the Black Forest. There is apparently a museum about the meat in Musbach bei Freudenstadt, and certainly one at the Feldberg. There is even a ham themed hiking route.
Beer. Rothaus is the most common beer in the area, and can increasingly be found further and further away. Waldhaus is a favourite of mine, and there are numerous others. Again the tourism website is quite informative (though not all inclusive).
Wine is made in the area – especially in the Rhein valley around Freiburg.
Other Alcohol. The cherry brandy Kirsch(wasser) is the most famous. There are various other fruit based Schnapps. There are also Whiskey and gin producers (to name just a few).

Other bits
There are endless little museums.

Cuckoo clocks (Kuckucksuhr). That other Black Forest thing. They might not have originated in the Black Forest, but they became very popular there. There is a museum, and Triberg and Schonach both claim to have the world's largest cuckoo clock, among other clock based touristy-things scattered around. You will never be short of the chance to buy one.
Glassmaking is an old tradition and there are workshops and show-rooms all over the area. There should also be a glass making themed hike in the south somewhere.
For a rather unique spot read this article and then visit the Engländerdenkmal.

Other points

For similar areas the Swiss Jura mountains are very close. Likewise the Emmental (especially around Napf) and Appenzell. The latter have the advantage that in addition to deeply folded wooded valleys the landscape then rises up to the Alps.
There have been a few suspected wolf sightings but nothing to worry you – motorbikes present a far bigger danger.
A far realer danger than wolfs is hunters during the autumn – best not to go off of the paths then. You will see their high perches all over the Black Forest and Germany.
If you speak German then looking for “SWR schwarzwald” on Youtube will find you lots of Black Forest related shows on history, culture, and travel in the area.
There is a long running and apparently popular German TV series set in the area - Die Schwarzwaldklinik.
Likewise if you can read German then you can read some local Krimis by the publisher Eamon.
https://www.independent.co.uk/travel/europe/the-complete-guide-to-the-black-forest-5353552.html
I don’t care how much I have been inconsistent with the ordering of English (German) and German (English).

My overview/tips for the Black Forest (Schwarzwald) in Germany.

There are three clichés which are usually beaten to death: Cuckoo clocks, cakes, and ham. These are covered in more detail further down.
The other cliché thing is the hat with big red balls, the Bollenhut. Though oddly it was just a thing in a few protestant villages, but has now been taken to represent the mostly catholic Black Forest as a whole.
Tourism is a major source of income (originally tourism kicked off due to the spas which are still open). But tourism tends to be heavy in some areas and almost non-existent in others. It is very easy to find a quiet bit of woodland or hilltop. It is far enough from most standard European destinations to be more of a “passing-through” spot for people from further away so mass tourism mostly isn’t a problem outside of a few focal points like Triberg.
Towns/villages are best seen as starting points or easy targets than rather than the main focus (other than bigger places like Freiburg). Some are pretty pretty, but none are very big. The most interesting sight is the giant wooden farmhouses which are very indicative of the area (and also Bern region in Switzerland).
Being mountainous the weather is a little more extreme than the surrounded area, but only a little (this is not the high Alps). It still pays to check ahead and prepare of course. During summer weather is warm and sunny enough to grow wine, but there is also a very high rainfall and there can be cold snaps. It can be very snowy in winter, though in recent years this has drastically been reduced. The main problem in winter is the fog, so plan to go to the higher parts if possible (over 1000m) to avoid that.
Being a widely populated and touristy area you are never that far from food and shelter. But there can still be danger if you are caught out by the weather.
Clearly German is the default language. Getting by in other languages should be easy enough in the tourist hotspots. Though it might be a bit more hit and miss in the quieter and more remote areas. There is a local Alemannische dialect but that won’t be anything to worry about unless you want to eavesdrop on the locals.

Just to ruin a few magical things…..

The cake was probably not invented in the Black Forest. More on that later.
It isn’t especially linked to any fairy tales. There are some local myths and tales like any region has. But the Brothers Grimm were never based around there (and they collected/recorded/edited rather than wrote the tales), they were further north hence the fairy tale road is up around Marburg and Kassel and so most of their works are more local to Hesse/Westphalia (though they would have existed in various forms all over the region of modern Germany, and some were told to them by French Huguenots). By all means read their tales (though ideally in the first edition version) take in the atmosphere and imagine the places that could be just like the stories, just don’t think that the itself Black Forest inspired those exact stories.
It isn’t much of an ancient forest – the region was heavily deforested by 1850 with a monoculture of fast growing Spruce planted to replace the missing woods. Efforts have been made to fix this and it is looking muc better, but it can still be very apparent in some parts.
Dark on Netflix is filmed in Brandenburg/Berlin area – totally the wrong side of the country. The landscape is far too flat, and the brick houses are a rare sight in the south of Germany.
Gummy bears come from Germany but were invented in Bonn. The Black Forest Gummy bears that Americans go on about are made in the USA and unknown elsewhere. Showing the advert to my Black Forest native girlfriend produced something of a confused reaction.
You probably didn’t play here in Age of Empires 2. With the language set to German you are instead playing in “Dunkelwald” (dark forest). The Black Forest map is the right sort of region, but far too flat.

The main scenic drive is the Schwarzwald-Hochstrasse, but there is also apparently: the Valley Road, the Spa Road, the Baden Wine Road, the Asparagus Road, and the Clock Road. Though most driving in the area will be scenic, especially on the quieter backroads.
There are a few train lines, but the coverage is really far from total. There are also a few with historic trains running: Waldenburg-Liestal, Ettlingen-Bad Herrenalb (the Albtalbahn) and the Dampfzug Chanderli, between Kandern and Basel.
Bus routes from Freiburg to the bigger tourist spots tend to be slow but will do the job. Those covering smaller villages in quieter areas tend to be the “once or twice a day and stop everywhere” sort.
If you are using public transport then the Baden-Württemberg-Ticket offers a cheap day pass for local transport in the region, and it gets cheaper for each extra person in your group.

Freiburg (im Breisgau). Not really Black Forest (depending on who you ask), but a nice city and a good entry point.
Titisee (yes that is Titi-lake). REALLY TOURISTY. The historical home of tourism in the area, also home to a slightly comical number of boats.
Feldberg. See also the Feldsee just below it.
Schluchsee. A slightly quieter lake than the Titisee.
Mummelsee.
Baden Baden. The classic spa/casino town. Like Freiburg it isn’t really the Black Forest, but makes a good starting point.
Triberg. REALLY TOURSITY. See also the local waterfall which is apparently the highest in Germany.
There are quite a few Rödelbahn (alpine coasters).
Altensteig.
Baiersbronn. A higher end resort town with lots of fancy restaurants.
Open air museum Vogstbauernhof
Allerheiligen. Featuring a pretty waterfall and a ruined monastery.
Staufen
Wolfach.
Hexenlochmühle (witch hole mill)
The Kinzig valley, including Gengenbach and Schiltach
Schloss Hohenbaden
Hausach.
Bad Wildbad
Gutachtal
Ravennaschluct and the Christmas Market there
Donauquelle (source of the Danube river).

Other spots
These might also be touristy to some extent, but probably far less so.

Wutachschlucht
Sankt Blasien (the big church)
Kloster St. Peter auf dem Schwarzwald.
Geroldsau Waterfall
Zweribach Waterfall
Freudenstadt
Alpirsbach
Bernau
Menzenschwand.
Herzogenhorn.
Calw
Nagold
Schitach
Hornisgrinde
Alternativer Wolf- und Bärenpark

Food and drink
Separating truly Black Forest and anything from that region is a little hard. Being a rural area there are plenty of local jams/honey/etc on sale

Schwarzwälder Kirschtorte (Black Forest gâteau/cake). Quite why it got the name is unclear and there are various stories, it might be the flavouring with Kirsch (hence the name in German). The origin of the cake itself is also seemingly uncertain, with there being no absolute proof that it originated in the Black Forest. More likely it seems to have come from Bonn. You can certainly find it easily and enjoy it in the Black Forest though.
Schwarzwälder schinken (Black Forest Ham). A smoke-cured raw ham. In Europe this has regional protection, so it has to be produced in the region to a certain standard to have the name. The name seems to resonate strongly with people from the USA - where it is not under any protection and seems to be a common exotic sounding description slapped on the name of any old pork product (this can vary from something respectable looking, to a level of “DEAR GOD WHAT THE IN NAME OF FUCK IS THAT”). Whatever it is that Subway sells has certainly never been anywhere near the Black Forest. There is apparently a museum about the meat in Musbach bei Freudenstadt, and certainly one at the Feldberg. There is even a ham themed hiking route.
Beer. Rothaus is the most common beer in the area, and can increasingly be found further and further away. Waldhaus is a favourite of mine, and there are numerous others. Again the tourism website is quite informative (though not all inclusive).
Wine is made in the area – especially in the Rhein valley around Freiburg.
Other Alcohol. The cherry brandy Kirsch(wasser) is the most famous. There are various other fruit based Schnapps. There are also Whiskey and gin producers (to name just a few).

Other bits
There are endless little museums.

Cuckoo clocks (Kuckucksuhr). That other Black Forest thing. They might not have originated in the Black Forest, but they became very popular there. There is a museum, and Triberg and Schonach both claim to have the world's largest cuckoo clock, among other clock based touristy-things scattered around. You will never be short of the chance to buy one.
Glassmaking is an old tradition and there are workshops and show-rooms all over the area. There should also be a glass making themed hike in the south somewhere.
For a rather unique spot read this article and then visit the Engländerdenkmal.

Other points

For similar areas the Swiss Jura mountains are very close. Likewise the Emmental (especially around Napf) and Appenzell. The latter have the advantage that in addition to deeply folded wooded valleys the landscape then rises up to the Alps.
There have been a few suspected wolf sightings but nothing to worry you – motorbikes present a far bigger danger.
A far realer danger than wolfs is hunters during the autumn – best not to go off of the paths then. You will see their high perches all over the Black Forest and Germany.
If you speak German then looking for “SWR schwarzwald” on Youtube will find you lots of Black Forest related shows on history, culture, and travel in the area.
There is a long running and apparently popular German TV series set in the area - Die Schwarzwaldklinik.
Likewise if you can read German then you can read some local Krimis by the publisher Eamon.
https://www.independent.co.uk/travel/europe/the-complete-guide-to-the-black-forest-5353552.html
I don’t care how much I have been inconsistent with the ordering of English (German) and German (English).

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[Not Switzerland] My overview/tips for the Black Forest (Schwarzwald) in Germany.

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